Comments on: American Cliche #188 http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/ A look at pop-culture, social media and under-reported news. Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:04:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Scott Parent http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-109067 Scott Parent Tue, 19 May 2009 17:29:00 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-109067 Mike, I can't control how she's portrayed, just how I see her. Like you said, I didn't say those word. The point I keep coming back to is how she said that she wishes people could show tolerance and respect for differening opinions in regards to all the people slamming her. Where is her tolerance for allowing same-sex marriage? She can't have it both ways. -S Mike,

I can’t control how she’s portrayed, just how I see her. Like you said, I didn’t say those word.

The point I keep coming back to is how she said that she wishes people could show tolerance and respect for differening opinions in regards to all the people slamming her. Where is her tolerance for allowing same-sex marriage? She can’t have it both ways.

-S

]]> By: Mike http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-109066 Mike Tue, 19 May 2009 17:25:48 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-109066 I don't know, I just feel like most of the attacks against her come off as "You don's share my opinion therefore you're a dumb bitch." I'm not saying you said that, just how she's portrayed. I personally disagree with her and quite honestly don't care about her, I just hate that there are personal attacks for her opinion. I respect her for having the "balls" to express her opinion in such a public forum. But I do agree with you it is so sad that gay men and women cannot marry each other. Also I never thought of marriage as freedom of speech, but that's an interesting thought. Either way I still love your show and agree with you 75% of the time. I don’t know, I just feel like most of the attacks against her come off as “You don’s share my opinion therefore you’re a dumb bitch.” I’m not saying you said that, just how she’s portrayed. I personally disagree with her and quite honestly don’t care about her, I just hate that there are personal attacks for her opinion. I respect her for having the “balls” to express her opinion in such a public forum. But I do agree with you it is so sad that gay men and women cannot marry each other. Also I never thought of marriage as freedom of speech, but that’s an interesting thought.

Either way I still love your show and agree with you 75% of the time.

]]> By: Scott Parent http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-109040 Scott Parent Mon, 18 May 2009 19:23:32 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-109040 Mike, I am attacking her character for two reasons: 1. She pretends to be against gay marriage under the umbrella of family values etc, yet she has topless photos of herself online. (Hypocrite much?) 2. Miss California is supposed to represent all the people of our state. That means you talk about the state flower and ending poverty etc - you don't use it as a soapbox to give your opinion about a divisive issue. I absolutely agree with freedom of speech, but let's take that a step further and allow people to really express their personal freedoms by being allowed the same rights that straight people have. Make sense? -S Mike,

I am attacking her character for two reasons:

1. She pretends to be against gay marriage under the umbrella of family values etc, yet she has topless photos of herself online. (Hypocrite much?)

2. Miss California is supposed to represent all the people of our state. That means you talk about the state flower and ending poverty etc – you don’t use it as a soapbox to give your opinion about a divisive issue.

I absolutely agree with freedom of speech, but let’s take that a step further and allow people to really express their personal freedoms by being allowed the same rights that straight people have.

Make sense?

-S

]]> By: Massimiliano http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-109000 Massimiliano Sun, 17 May 2009 09:15:35 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-109000 Hey Scott great show by the way! greetings from Barcelona city (Spain). Take care! Massimiliano Hey Scott great show by the way! greetings from Barcelona city (Spain).

Take care!

Massimiliano

]]> By: Mike http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-108902 Mike Thu, 14 May 2009 18:04:09 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-108902 I want to start by saying I am 100% in support of gay marriage, I have no problems with it at all. If two people, no matter what their genders are can find love and happiness as a society what right do we have to tell them no? I find it sad and disappointing that as a country we are oppressive to people just because they don't love in a "normal" way. But, on the other hand, we do live in a free society, one of our fundamental principles is freedom of speech. Just because Miss California is anti-gay marriage does NOT mean we should attack her, it does NOT make her a bad person and it should NOT in anyway shape or form effect the outcome of her pageant. She is simply misinformed and speaking her opinion, which sadly is the same as the majority of the country. I recently read on cnn.com how 55% of the US is against gay marriage. I believe we should respect her opinion and instead of bashing her (which makes those of us who disagree with her look like asses) we should have an open dialogue. Her opinion should be challenged, not her character. What happened to the freedom of having a different opinion? I applaud her for having the courage to express her opinion publicly and then stand behind it. Right or wrong she does not deserve the backlash she is receiving. Once again let me stress, I am PRO gay marriage. On a side note, I found it ironic that Shanna Moekler (spelling?) a former Playboy model and former Miss USA resigned over not stripping the current title holder. I find that hypocritical. I want to start by saying I am 100% in support of gay marriage, I have no problems with it at all. If two people, no matter what their genders are can find love and happiness as a society what right do we have to tell them no? I find it sad and disappointing that as a country we are oppressive to people just because they don’t love in a “normal” way.

But, on the other hand, we do live in a free society, one of our fundamental principles is freedom of speech. Just because Miss California is anti-gay marriage does NOT mean we should attack her, it does NOT make her a bad person and it should NOT in anyway shape or form effect the outcome of her pageant. She is simply misinformed and speaking her opinion, which sadly is the same as the majority of the country. I recently read on cnn.com how 55% of the US is against gay marriage. I believe we should respect her opinion and instead of bashing her (which makes those of us who disagree with her look like asses) we should have an open dialogue. Her opinion should be challenged, not her character. What happened to the freedom of having a different opinion? I applaud her for having the courage to express her opinion publicly and then stand behind it. Right or wrong she does not deserve the backlash she is receiving.

Once again let me stress, I am PRO gay marriage.

On a side note, I found it ironic that Shanna Moekler (spelling?) a former Playboy model and former Miss USA resigned over not stripping the current title holder. I find that hypocritical.

]]> By: Scott http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-108895 Scott Thu, 14 May 2009 13:55:01 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-108895 Sorry Jim - I thought the point of the rant was that we're a litigious society and we don't help each other out anymore. As far as the Doritos shell, I don't like Doritos or Fritos or anything like that, so the idea of a taco shell made from it is not for me. -S Sorry Jim – I thought the point of the rant was that we’re a litigious society and we don’t help each other out anymore.

As far as the Doritos shell, I don’t like Doritos or Fritos or anything like that, so the idea of a taco shell made from it is not for me.

-S

]]> By: jim http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-108893 jim Thu, 14 May 2009 12:36:19 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-108893 thanks, brian! I thought it was a good idea too. Scott, what do you think about it? I was glad you played my Rant, but was disappointed you didn't say if the dorito taco shell was a good or bad idea, which was the whole point of the Rant! ;-) thanks, brian! I thought it was a good idea too. Scott, what do you think about it? I was glad you played my Rant, but was disappointed you didn’t say if the dorito taco shell was a good or bad idea, which was the whole point of the Rant! ;-)

]]> By: brian http://www.americancliche.net/2009/05/12/american-cliche-188/comment-page-1/#comment-108859 brian Wed, 13 May 2009 19:40:07 +0000 http://www.americancliche.net/?p=660#comment-108859 I would love a dorito taco shell for the record. I would love a dorito taco shell for the record.

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